свинство.

[aphar]

Человек, снимающий с приятелем жильё один год, может оформить "domestic partnership" и дать руммейту мед.страховку от своей работы.
А я жил у своей сестры, и не было НИКАКОЙ возможности дать ей страховку от моей работы.
Так что если понятие брака будем расширять, то я настаиваю на полном расширении.
Т.е., любое количество единиц любых объектов могут вступить в брак.
Скажем, брак (1)телевизора, (2)холодильника, (3)кошки, (4)козы, (5)собаки и трёх мужиков: (6)сын, (7)отец и (8)дед.
Нормальная, здоровая семья из восьми членов.
А если холодильник сломается, ремонт будет оплачивать медикэр (гос.мед.страховка для стариков) деда.
Нет. Медикэр на членов семьи не распространяется.
Ну ладно, отец работает - его страховка пусть и платит.

Comments

[uzheletta.livejournal.com]

Marik, I read the discussion, and I think you completely misunderstood aphar's point, sorry.
he doesn't have a problem with gay's rights.
he has a problem with rights being given ONLY to gay people.
that's it.
for example, when he and N. lived as the same household, and shared everything except the bed, he couldn't legally extend his health insurance to her and her daughter. he was told that he wasn't married to her, and so, they were not a family. now, of course, they were a family for all practical purposes (except sex).
this is something that he perceives as unfair, to the rights given to gay people.
i do think that extending the definition of marriage should apply to all varieties, not only to gay couples, and not only to couples.
then, everything should be accepted (incest, polygamy, you name it).
гулять, так гулять :)

[mhmeln-57.livejournal.com]

Jen'ka, thank you for intervening and explaining this! Love your suggestion for a redefined marriage. :-)

Ok, in that case, i think his issue is in the statement "rights being given only to gay people". Civil rights are not granted, they are asserted. So the reason these rights are "given" to gay people is because they are TAKING them. And if he wants similar rights with regard to his sister, then he can champion the fight for those rights and those people. Which is slightly different from simply expressing frustration over that in his own LJ. :-)

On a separate note, have you ever done a t-group?

[uzheletta.livejournal.com]

i think lj rant is all he needed for now. thanks!

[aphar.livejournal.com]

you are not getting it, are you?
you want a change.
if you want my support for the change, you have to make it logically consistent.
if you don't care about my support for your cause, we will just have to agree to disagree.
which part of the above is unclear or disagreable or unreasonable?